Charlemagne et son frère Carloman

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Messagepar Histoire-fr.com » Ven Sep 08, 2006 9:12 pm

Carloman, le frère de Charlemagne, mourut en 771, trois ans après le décès de leur père, Pépin III.
A votre avis, Charlemagne a il fait tuer son frère :twisted: ou avons nous là affaire à une mort naturelle? :?
Parce qu'un pays sans passé est un pays sans avenir...
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Messagepar Mensik » Dim Sep 16, 2007 2:51 am

Wikipédia semble penser qu'il s'agit d'une mort naturelle, puisqu'il est dit que Carloman 1er sent sa mort venir...
Bien évidemment, on ne voit pas venir un assassinat :lol:

Wikipédia a écrit:[...] Il meurt le 4 décembre 771 en son palais de Samoussy, et fut inhumé en l'église abbatiale de Saint-Remi de Reims. A partir de juin 771, voyant sa mort venir, il avait cédé plusieurs de ses domaines en échange de sa sépulture[1].


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Messagepar caca » Lun Juil 28, 2008 4:43 pm

D'un autre côté, les sources disent "carloman a vu sa mort venir", mais qui a écrit le livre en question?
Eginhard? Il mangeait dans la main de Charlemagne...
Donc la question reste en suspens... ?:.;?
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Messagepar goodrrz1234 » Ven Sep 16, 2016 8:36 am

À son tour , il est utile d'avoir un état d'esprit . Il pourrait éclaircir tout le temps.
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Carloman et Charlemagne ne s'entendent guère. Ainsi, en mars 769, Carloman laisse son frère mater seul une révolte des Aquitains menée par Hunald, fils du rebelle Waïfre.

Leur mère Bertrade intervient en politique, afin de régler les différends qui opposent les deux frères, en réalisant une alliance avec le duc Tassillon III de Bavière et avec Didier, roi des Lombards. En 770, les deux frères se réconcilient.
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